Car recommendations again...halp.

"Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur" (velocity860) 07/29/2014 at 22:42 • Filed to: cars

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Best car for around 10 grand that's manual, also newer than 2000, and I can't get a Miata because of my dear mother saying absolutely not, so don't say Miata. Preferably fast and RWD, but if it's awesome I can dig FWD or AWD.

I've been trying to find a Saturn Sky Redline as you guys may know, but they are hard as hell to find for around 10k. It's possible yes, but there are only 2, and both are far away.

XJDano > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 22:43

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differance between a miata & redline sky?

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > XJDano 07/29/2014 at 22:45

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Well personally I like the Sky a bit more than a Miata, and a Sky is a bit bigger. Even though it's not a ton bigger I've somehow convinced my mom that it's safe enough, but there's no convincing her on Miatas.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 22:47

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I feel like I've seen turbocharged Cobalt SS's going for $10k.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 07/29/2014 at 22:49

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Eh...the only ones around here are driven by major tools and I don't wanna be in that crowd. Plus, why get that when I can get the same engine in a RWD platform?

AM3R > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 22:50

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E39 540i, newest Mustang GT you can get for 10k, WRX, I'll look for some more stuff later.

SonorousSpeedJoe > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 22:51

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If the Miata's off the table, is a New Edge Mustang GT 'vert not an option as well?

They may be a bit outside your price range, I'll admit. I see more convertibles than coupes on AutoTrader, thus the 'vert recommendation.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > AM3R 07/29/2014 at 22:53

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Don't care for the 540, don't want a Stang, and if I were to get a Scoob it would have to be an STi. I'm picky I know.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > SonorousSpeedJoe 07/29/2014 at 22:54

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I can't drive a Mustang, the world would implode.

AM3R > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 22:54

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So get an STi. Don't worry, I'm pretty particular myself haha. What do you like/want in a car?

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > AM3R 07/29/2014 at 22:56

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I like lightweight throwable-ness, but with power still, and I want it to be turbo'd or supercharged so it's easy and cheap(ish) to tune for more power.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 22:57

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but there are only 2, and both are far away.

I thought that was why?

Uhuhuh... $10k could probably get you an E36 M3, but 90s.

Mustang

SRT Neon

S4

S60R

Uhh... I dunno what else.

AM3R > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 22:58

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For $10k you're pretty much looking at an STi unless you're willing to put an aftermarket turbo on a NA car.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 07/29/2014 at 22:59

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Was looking at the S4 and S60R but...reliability, at least for the Audi. And The S60R I've heard has numb steering.

Also, I can just keep waiting another month or so to find a Sky I guess, but if something just as good pops up sooner...

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > AM3R 07/29/2014 at 23:01

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I don't really want to sacrifice reliability too much. It's hard to find an STi for 10k that's not been wrecked

My citroen won't start > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:01

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SLK230/320

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:02

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Just wait it out for a Sky, it's probably the best choice.

55Buick, Oversteer Scientist > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:02

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AM3R > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:03

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Mini Cooper S? Supercharged and very tossable.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > AM3R 07/29/2014 at 23:03

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True. But, hard to convince my mom because it has the name "Mini"

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 07/29/2014 at 23:05

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I know, but argh it's hard to wait and then something might not even pop up at all.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > 55Buick, Oversteer Scientist 07/29/2014 at 23:06

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Find me one. I can't

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:06

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Just keep thinking, in the end you end up with a 260 horsepower, manual, RWD roadster that looks damn good.

AM3R > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:06

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tell her it's made by BMW lol

SonorousSpeedJoe > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:08

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Hmm.

This is a bit of a longshot, but there's also the Toyota Celica GT-S, Toyota Corolla XRS, and first-gen Toyota Matrix XRS (a.k.a. Pontiac Vibe GT). On the plus side, they have the 2ZZ-GE with 180 HP, a 6-speed manual and redline around 8,000 RPM in most applications. You can also brag that it's a Lotus engine since they tweak it and use it for their cars.

The downside is that I don't know how much aftermarket support there would be. All three Toyotas would probably have a decent aftermarket as far as performance mods and rice go, but only to a certain extent; they don't really hold a candle to the WRX, Neon SRT-4, Cobalt SS and other sport compacts in stock form.

XJDano > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:09

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tsx, RSX, svt focus or lightning, 350Z, Genesis, mazdaspeed3, gto, rx8, Gti, G35,

GhostZ > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:10

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Last year was 2000. They actually have a lot of safety features for their speed, and they still drive closer to a 2005 car than a 1990 car. Find one under 100,000 miles and you're good to go. Even better if it's a turbo (but I wouldn't recommend it, due to higher maintenence and difficulty to find in your price range). Don't worry though, even the non-turbos are still faster than most sports cars of its time, and will certainly outrun Mustangs, Camaros, etc.

Also, some had back seats.

The Audi TT is JUST within your budget. Not very reliable though.

Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:10

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Any particular reason you are looking for a Sky/Solstice that isn't a Redline other than because turbo?

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Phyrxes once again has a wagon! 07/29/2014 at 23:11

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Just turbo and suspension. Base models are really really underpowered, I drove one.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > GhostZ 07/29/2014 at 23:13

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My mom wouldn't like the 300ZX because even being a 2000 she still would say it's too old. Only way a 2000 car would work is if it was started that year.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > XJDano 07/29/2014 at 23:15

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No, meh, no no, nope, no, ehhh, no, APEX SEALS, ehhh, no

GhostZ > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:15

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Doe she know that a car that cost $50,000 in 1990 is WAY more safe, reliable, and better than a car that cost $12,000 in 2000?

There is literally nothing on the 300ZX that wasn't cutting-edge all the way up to 2010. Climate Control, Adjustable suspension, 4 wheel steering, SIDE AIRBAGS for christ's sake. You don't get those in a Saturn Sky.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 07/29/2014 at 23:16

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That's exactly why I want one!

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > AM3R 07/29/2014 at 23:17

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She knows, she's just a typical mom. Also that would scare her because maintenance.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > GhostZ 07/29/2014 at 23:18

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Dude, this is my mom we're talking about. No, she does not know this nor does she care. The newer, airbaggier, and bigger a car is= safer to her. Not how well it's made or anything.

GhostZ > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:19

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Still, show it to her, say SIDE AIRBAGS and tell her if she says no, you will make sure whatever you do get has as few safety features as possible.

Also, I'm going back to my original stance: If its your money, buy what you want. If it's not your money, refuse to let them buy you anything on principle and ride a bike until you can buy it yourself.

SonorousSpeedJoe > GhostZ 07/29/2014 at 23:20

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The easy way to tell the twin-turbo and non-turbo USDM 300ZXs apart is by checking the seating configuration, right? They were sold as non-turbo 2+2 seaters and twin-turbo 2-seaters, IIRC.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > GhostZ 07/29/2014 at 23:20

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It's like 5k of my money and 5k of my dad's. My dad is less strict and that's the only way I got the Sky passed, my dad likes it enough to not care as much about the size and safety.

Also personally, uh, I don't really like 300zxs....don't shoot me

XJDano > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:21

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thats a run down of manual $7-10K on my local CL, as I'm not in market I don't really know what stuff sells for. Good luck.

GhostZ > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:23

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It's fine if you don't like 300ZXs, they're not for everyone.

Go buy an NA Miata for 4k+1k for insurance and gas. Tell your dad to keep his 5k and that if he's going to lord conditions over you, you don't want it. You need fun, sporty good-looking transportation, not a nice car or an expensive one. You'll have more fun in a 4k car of your own choice than a 20k car your parents sit you in, clearly.

Or, better yet, buy some sedan for 2-3k, and keep saving until you can dump 10k of your own money on a Sky later on, knowing that (again) you'll probably wreck whatever you buy.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > XJDano 07/29/2014 at 23:23

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Yeah I know I'm way too picky....

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > GhostZ 07/29/2014 at 23:24

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He's totally against the Miata unless it's an 08+ with side airbags sadly. And although the 5k is technically my money, my dad won't let me spend it on just anything I want.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:25

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E36 M3!

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/29/2014 at 23:26

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My friend's neighbor has one, turbo'd. I told my dad, and he shot it down. No E36 M3 for me :c

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:28

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:(

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/29/2014 at 23:29

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It's yellow too! You should get it.

GhostZ > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:31

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If your parents won't let you spend your own money that you worked and earned on what you want, then there's bigger problems. You either aren't able to show them that you can be responsible, or you're too intertwined in their decisions that you aren't able to act without their approval when they are wrong.

If I were in your shoes, I would be looking for the cheapest form of base transportation I could find, ignore my parent's rules, spend $1000 on something to get me through the next year, sell it for what you bought it at, save everything else until you can afford something nice. Drive it into the ground and be responsible with it to show your parents that if they are wrong you don't need them to do what you think is right. Of course, the problem is, if you DO wreck it or get hurt, you will never live it down and they will never trust you with anything, because that means you actually aren't as responsible as you think.

...although, if I was really in your shoes I would spend the money on cryptocurrency speculation and make $500-$1000 a month on it, easily. But that's risky and sort of requires having a strong knowledge of private equity and software. Which, while you can learn it online (in fact, you can ONLY learn it online, they don't really teach this stuff) but I don't know if you have enough time to learn how to do that.

Your parent's decisions on your life are toxic. Get out, go to college, pay for it yourself, work hard, and separate yourself from their control.

XJDano > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:31

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is this your first car?

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > GhostZ 07/29/2014 at 23:36

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I already have a car lol I could just keep it and be happy, but it's way too automatic for my likes. Also, although it's technically my money, I earned it all for working for my dad so...he kinda has it.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > XJDano 07/29/2014 at 23:38

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Nooope. I have a car now it's just too automatic. I'm selling it to afford something else like a Sky.

GhostZ > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:41

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Life tip: If the money isn't in a secret location or bank account solely in your name where no one else can access it, it's not really yours.

Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/29/2014 at 23:45

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Ah my dad has a base model, didn't notice the lack of power but I wasn't trying to hoon it.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Phyrxes once again has a wagon! 07/29/2014 at 23:47

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I wasn't trying to hoon (too much..heh) either, but I just noticed that it bogged down in third when going 30 ish, and it's 2900lbs with 177hp, not that great.

JDM.ITR > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/30/2014 at 00:15

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RSX-S; K series engine is amazing, stock block can handle 350whp when turbo... 8k can get you into a clean RSX-S and leftover $$ can get you almost everything you need to turbo if you piece the kit together. Tuning will cost you a bit still.

Cheaper choice is 2000-01 Integra GSR.

55Buick, Oversteer Scientist > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/30/2014 at 00:17

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zip code?

grahamrh808 > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/30/2014 at 00:53

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Since you seem to want a 2 seat roadster, don't forget about about the BMW Z3 and Z4. If your mom thinks the Sky is safe enough than a BMW shouldn't be a problem.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > 55Buick, Oversteer Scientist 07/30/2014 at 00:58

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37922

Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/30/2014 at 10:53

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That has been my dad's only major complaint that the gearing isn't happy to drive at residential speeds, it bogs at 25 to 30. Its still a fun car to drive down country roads.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > Phyrxes once again has a wagon! 07/30/2014 at 11:17

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Well, of course it's still fun to drive down country roads! The chassis is still great haha.

55Buick, Oversteer Scientist > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/30/2014 at 12:31

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http://chattanooga.craigslist.org/cto/4489801096…

Fast? RWD? Manual? Wagon? Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > 55Buick, Oversteer Scientist 07/30/2014 at 12:42

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It's only a 325, that's not fast!

55Buick, Oversteer Scientist > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 07/30/2014 at 12:48

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ah...for some reason I thought it was a 330. There's not much to choose from.

George McNally > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 08/25/2014 at 21:47

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Corvette .